Dallas Texas was the first date of the 2016 Vans Warped Tour. The first show is always fun. I get to see a lot of old friends and catch up after a year or two of not seeing them and this show was no different. Here are the pics from the first show, enjoy.
Here is a sampling of some of my best work from the past year. This is by no means Everything, as a matter of fact it doesn't include ANY live concert shots. These are all shots that me and the person involved collaborated on to create. There is some nudity involved, as a matter of fact there's a nipple in the very first post. These shots are almost all done in controlled situations where I am controlling the light. There are a few here and there (maybe three) where it is all natural light but for the majority of them I am manipulating the light myself to achieve the desired effect. I hope you enjoy these images and the many more to come over the new year.
First shoot of the year in my house in Buffalo NY. Had been wanting to shoot someone in the shower for ages and finally did. Definitely going to do more like this.
Drove cross country to California from New York and met up with Aaron and my friend Dorian in LA. Did a quick little shoot with Darksiders while my friend Dorian was getting herself ready to shoot.
Dorian has been a good friend of mine for years now. We always try to get together and shoot when we end up in the same town. We had a super small window to work with this day but we got some great shots anyway!
Laia Gore is a fellow photographer, her and her boyfriend Nathaniel came to meet me in Sarasota before we went for dinner I had to get her to pose for some photos for me at sunset. I normally won't center my subject in my photo like this but it worked perfectly for this shot!
Had the pleasure of getting together with my friends Jill Justus and Matty Mullins in Indianapolis to do a fun portrait session in March while I was traveling from Florida to Minnesota with the tour I was on. Jill Justus is an amazing photographer in her own right. Definitely look her up and check out her work, she did the makeup on Matty here.
After getting together with my friends in Memphis May Fire in Indianapolis I headed up to Rockford IL and hung out with Garret for a few days before finishing my trip up to Minneapolis MN. We shot this in a local hair salon in Rockford on a day when they were closed for business. I used a photo of a burning print of Andy Biersack and Juliet Simms for the double exposure effect in this photo. I'm really happy with how it turned out.
When my tour got out to California I met up with my friends April and Alexis and we took a drive up to the desert to shoot at sunset. While April put on a big old ripped up wedding gown Alexis danced around in this red dress as the sun fell low in the sky on a beautiful April spring day...
My friend Alexis is actually in this photo as well. She is hiding under the train of the dress fluffing it up for the photo. (I guess you could call her a fluffer...) This is probably my favorite image of the year. There's something about it that's just magical.
One of my favorite things to photograph are nudes in nature, one of these days I want to get together with a model and travel up the coast in California and then hit a bunch of the national parks out west. I should finally get around to that this year.
A few days after my shoot with April and Alexis I drove back down to LA. I was supposed to shoot with all three of them at the beach but April couldn't make it due to medical reasons and Alexis got a last second modeling job in LA. It ended up being just me and Krystalyn, we got some badass shots anyway and an evening at the beach in California is a good evening no matter what.
Anyone who is familiar with my work has seen photos from my "MILK" series. I rarely get to do them outside of my home in Buffalo NY. I rented a studio in LA shortly before Warped Tour started this year and did a set with Alexis. My good friend Alex came down to the studio and did the pouring for me. For those that don't know where my inspiration for this photo series came from there was a photographer named Irving Penn who used to shoot for Vogue that did a piece called "cult creams" for them. It's a totally different aesthetic but was the inspiration for this series.
The day before Warped Tour began I got my friend Micky Knox to come through. She's one of the most badass women I know. I set my flag up in the parking lot in front of the trucks and we had ourselves a little photo shoot. This was my first shoot with my new Canon 6D and I was using the lensbaby composer 35mm lens. It definitely has an interesting effect but I'm not sure I'll use it too much.
I wasn't going to include any photos from Warped in this as my criteria was only photos from organized shoots where me and a person or persons got together just to shoot and I lit the shot myself. I lit this myself but it was super impromptu after Keith's set but the emotion and warmth of this one is so compelling that I made an exception.
Kristen had asked me to shoot her in her bikini way earlier on Warped tour and there weren't many more days left to get it done. We got together in Bonner Springs as the last bands were playing for the day and shot. We got some guys from some of the bands on tour to put holes in the caps of a few water bottles and spray water at her for this shot, was definitely a fun shoot, and kudos to Kristen for coming out in that skimpy bikini to shoot in the bandwagon/bus area. That had to take a lot of self confidence!
Brittany Andersen isn't your typical "model" type and that's one of the things I love about her. It's nice to shoot someone that doesn't fit your typical "model" mold. We got together shortly after Warped when I had a two day stay at home and met up on the waterfront in Buffalo to shoot at sunset before heading to my house to do a "MILK" photo set.
My second "MILK" shoot of the year... It took forever to set up another one... Brittany brought her friend Emily along and I got some shots with her as well. She's another "not your typical model" type. (Which made me very happy.)
Emily was a total doll. We did some shots of her and Brittany together too but I figured I would include one of each of them individually. It was so refreshing to shoot with her and Brittany and we will probably be working together again real soon!
I Spent all of September on tour with a band called Umphrey's McGee when that wrapped up I did a one off "show" in Toronto for a "League of Legends" video game tournament. When that was done I had a few days in the Detroit area and got together at the recording studio to hang out with my friend Craig Owens and shoot a few photos. I used my lensbaby lens again. I'm at odds with myself over whether that was the right choice or not but I love this photo anyway.
I started touring with a Broadway production of Cinderella in October, the second city we visited was Madison WI. Me and Domino had tried to get together the year before when I was in town with another show but our plans fell through. This year when I came to town with Cinderella we were able to make it happen. It being so close to Halloween we decided to do some shots with fake blood. I put the fake blood in a spray bottle and spritzed it all over her body. The first "bloody" shots we did she was wearing a tank top then we did a few nude photos. I like the way it ended up spattered on her face and not on her chest because of it.
We had just finished Shooting Fay with some over sized vampire teeth that made her look more Werewolf like. I had her take a quick walk back and forth on this little path in this park. She didn't really want to she was cold and raining. I'm not 100% haopy with the shot, I know we could have done better but I feel like we still did good enough to include the photo here. Fay is an amazing makeup and sfx artist you can find her on instagram as @cagedinpurgatory give her a follow!
I had a few weeks where I had nothing going on photography wise then I picked up one of my best friends Bataia on my way to Indianapolis. We got to do a couple photo shoots that week and I shot my last two concerts of the year. Bataia works at a haunted house every halloween and has a knack for special effects makeup. When we got to Lindsay's house she decided to do a big wound on her neck, once she finished it I shot a bunch of photos of just Lindsay then the two of them together. Bataia has a special place she goes when you get her involved with some special effects makeup and it's truly a sight to behold. One of my most fun photo shoots ever.
On the second to Last day we were in Indy me and Bataia got a hotel room to shoot in. She thought I was crazy having her shoot with pizza and liquor but we ended up getting some pretty rad shots out of it. It was casual and fun which is all I could really ask for.
We shot a few more things around the hotel room and finished with photos in the shower. This edit is "dirty" as in I added scratches grain and focus effects after the fact. Bataia does such a good job modeling. I really hope she pursues it more this year she is one of the most talented models I know and has a really great look.
After I dropped Bataia off in West Virginia I went home for Thanksgiving. While I was home I got together with De and her husband Corey to shoot photos. The very first "MILK" shoot I ever did was with De in the basement at her house. We have turned it into a yearly tradition at this point. De always complains and says it's the last time, then we end up doing it again the next year haha. I look forward to it every year, the two of them are truly two of my favorite people in the world.
A little after Thanksgiving I found myself in Austin Texas with Cinderella. My friend Dorian happened to be in Texas at the time so we decided to get together to shoot some photos. I got a room at Hotel Casulo in Austin, they have some really interesting room layouts. The bedroom in this room has a window between it and the bathroom. Dorian is standing in a really big Jacuzzi for this shot. By this time we had put so much soap in it to make bubbles that I'm surprised she was even able to stand up. I liked shooting from the bedroom into the bathroom like this, it gives the photos a surreal feeling like you're not seeing a photo that was taken but almost like it's a photo of a television screen that she is trying to come through.
I had the pleasure of getting together with Ashley Whitmer and Miranda Eliot in Florida a few weeks ago. We wandered around and took photos of one another. This was with my Lensbaby lens, that's why the edges of the frame have the crazy bokeh effect that they do. Miranda is one of my favorite photographers, you should definitely check out her work. Any time I'm questioning a photo she's one of the first people I go to to ask for help. (I didn't question her about this one and she hasn't seen it and she will probably hate it...)
This ended up being my final shoot of 2016. Bryan just dropped an ep, you can search him under B. Lay. I met Bryan years ago on Warped tour when he was performing with Falling In Reverse. I thought Bryan was Ronnie's bodyguard for the longest time. (someone had told me he was...) I later found out he was a musician in his own right, it's been really great to have made such a good friend on Warped and to watch him grow as an artist over the years. This is for sure one of my personal top ten photos of all time. I don't feel like it quite fits with what Bryan is currently going for but for me it's special.
1. SHOOT LOCAL SHOWS.
At most local shows you can pay your cover and bring in any camera you want to. Your first concert is not going to be a major band at a large venue. (Unless you know someone or have convinced a publication to send you without having built a portfolio already. In that case, the publication is staffed by dumbasses...) Make friends at those small shows, the smaller the band the more surprised and grateful they will be that someone came to photograph their performance. Share your photos all over social media and grow yourself a following locally.
2. START A PUBLICATION/WEBSITE.
You might know who I am, you might think I can go shoot any band I want at any time. This is not the case. Publicists don't care how many people are following you on social media, they want you to be shooting for a specific site. Even a new site that hardly anybody sees will take precedence over me. I tried messaging a publicist last year to shoot a show up in Toronto. Despite the fact that another client of this publicist were currently using photos of mine for a charity campaign they would not do me any favors unless I was shooting for a publication/website. I could have found a publication to publish my photos if I really wanted to but I prefer to shoot for myself so I let it go.
3. MAKE FRIENDS WITH THE BAND
This is how I shoot most of my shows when not on tour. I either know someone touring with the band or someone in the band themselves. It helps to have friends.... I made friends with a bunch of the guys in The Devil Wears Prada while on Warped Tour with them. I ended up shooting them at three different venues last spring. Every so often I will even just show up at a show and find friends outside the venue having a cigarette or just shooting the shit and end up shooting the show. This happened with two shows I shot last spring.
4. GET A JOB ON TOUR
Not the easiest way to get to shoot shows. You might not even be able to shoot anything at all depending on your job or the photo policy of the band you are touring with. I was on tour with Lenny Kravitz this past fall and was not allowed to shoot any of the shows. Next tour, I was out with Disclosure and they were excited for me to photograph the shows. A lot of photographers I know that shoot shows ended up doing so by accident. They were working merch or were techs tuning and repairing musicians equipment on tour. I spent 8 years working Warped Tour as a truck driver before ever taking serious photos at one of the shows. Remember though, if you get a job on tour that is not as a photographer, THAT IS YOUR JOB, photography comes second...
The disclosure tour was one of my favorite tours I was on this year. It ended at one of the most legendary venues in the world. I never thought I would have the chance to photograph anything at Madison Square Garden but Disclosure gave me the opportunity and it was a dream come true! Here are a bunch of photos from it, thank you so much for checking this out!
As much as you may know me from photographing your favorite Warped Tour bands I don't listen to a lot of current music anymore. As with a lot of people as they age I fell out of searching for the next big thing. That's not to say that I'm not a fan of music. I went to the second ever Warped Tour and used to frequent shows all the time when I was younger. I've made road trips to far away cities for obscure hip-hop acts, hardcore bands and huge acts like Metallica. I own a sizable collection of vinyl and every so often I'll go find some new music to enjoy on Pandora. (check out the El Michel's Affair, they do some pretty amazing Jazz instrumentals of Wu Tang Clan classics...)
Last night I drove down to Vienna VA from Philadelphia and got curious about the new Miley Cyrus album. She's quirky and eccentric in a way that is so unique, I couldn't help myself. As a 35 year old male, Miley shouldn't be something that is for me but this album IS. It's so different from anything being produced today. It's an obvious labor of love and I'm really happy I gave it a chance. From the opening track "Dooo it!" through to the final track "Twinkle Song" the album is a breathe of fresh air in an environment where pop has become more predictable and formulaic than ever. It's a shame that her label didn't want to put it out as part of her multi-record contract. Thankfully she didn't shelve the material and decided to release it on sound cloud for free. At over and an hour and a half in length this "album" could never be contained on a single CD or LP anyway, there's something to be said about her releasing it on her own terms. The partying of "Bangerz" has been replaced by mellow introspective music for the most part. Miley has really impressed me with this record. I really hope I get a chance to work with her some day.
My friends in The Devil Wears Prada came through town on May 3rd so I headed out and snapped a few pics. Big thanks to Jeremy and the rest of the guys for being so cool. I got a photo signed for a fan while I was there, I like to do nice things for people. (Not that I am going to go getting things signed for everyone, this girl just stands out more than most fans of most bands to me... I'd love to get all the things signed for all the people, there's just too many of you.)
If you haven't caught the tour yet they are playing the whole "Zombie" ep at every date. As much as I dig the Zombie ep my favorite song from The Devil Wears Prada is Mammoth off of Dead Throne. Thankfully they've played it all three times I have caught the Zombie tour. I posted a live video of Mammoth below to go with the photos. No, I didn't take the video... The show in Buffalo here was actually in a WAY smaller venue too, anyway, I'm totally not a writer so I'm going to stop now... I suggest clicking play on the video and spending the next three and a half minutes perusing the photos and pretending you're there.
I'm probably going to post full sets from different shows up here every so often... Feel free to send me any questions you want answered to firstname.lastname@example.org
It's funny, shit gets so crazy on tour. The drives started getting a LOT longer right after I shot this in Hartford CT. I ended up forgetting to edit this set and just recently found it while doing a little digging through my Warped archives. It made me kind of happy, it's probably my best set of Word Alive photos, hope you all enjoy.
My friend and I are sophomores at Burr and Burton Academy, in Vermont, and we are interested in learning more about photography. We believe your answers could help us become more successful photographers. We have a few questions and would love to see your responses.They can be general, short answers or you can go into depth if you'd like. Thanks!
1) What kind of camera you use?
Currently I am using a Canon 70D as my main camera. I have 3 Canon T3I cameras as backups though along with a Canon Rebel film camera and a Fuji Instax 210 camera to use for fun.
2) What got you into photography?
I've always been an "artist" whether it be photography, drawing, or attempting to make music (I used to make weird electronic music back in like 2003/2004 none of it was very good, a few beats I made I really liked though...) Photography was just the most convenient medium for me to work in while on the road since all I needed was a digital camera with a memory card and a computer. I dabbled with film cameras a few times in the past. Eventually I bought myself a Canon T1I which was the camera that really got me going with photography. I spent a few years with that one slowly building a body of work and getting better, a few years later I bought myself a Canon T3I and started to learn lighting. The next summer while working on Warped Tour I really buckled down and concentrated on improving my shots. By the end of the tour I had over ten thousand followers on Instagram and to be honest it was pretty overwhelming! To this day I'm still confused as to why so many people like my work.
3) What advice/guidance would you give someone for photography, if they would like to make it in to a career?
I really don't have any advice for this other than to just keep shooting and improving your work since it's not even my "career". I'm not a "professional photographer" I lost money on my art last year. Could I make money? Probably, if I wanted to set up a studio, stay in one place, and shoot kids, pets, and weddings. That wouldn't really fulfill my needs as a visual artist though. I find it easier to just focus on my art while working my "real job" as a truck driver.
4) Would you ever be able to meet up and do a lesson on photography? Such as could you show us some of the basics and what it is like to be a photographer?
When I start thinking of ways to go on tour and make money without having to work as a driver one of those thoughts is to hold photography workshops AT shows. These workshops would probably be priced at around 250 dollars with a cap of two people per date and include getting together with me for a question answer session, a portrait session with someone from the tour, and photographing a portion of the show with me helping you with your shots. (That's something I would like to make happen in the future, who knows though...)
We would love to be able to see what it is you do in a full day of work. If you are able to and it's convenient.
That would pretty much never be convenient at this point unfortunately.
Thank you for taking the time to read through this.
-Madison Scholander and Brooke Champine
1. What type of jobs have you had in the industry? (tour manager, guitar tech, sound, etc.) Be as specific as you’d like.
I've spent the last eleven years working on the road with music/entertainment tours working as a truck driver. I've driven everything from broadway shows Fiddler on the Roof to WWE Wrestling to Fall Out Boy and Warped Tour.
2. Why do you think that a show/band wouldn’t be able to run without you?
Without the drivers getting the gear to the venue the shows couldn't happen at all. On Warped Tour I usually drive the audio for the stages along with some of the the bands instruments. Imagine trying to have a show without any speakers or instruments, would be a pretty lame show wouldn't it? When it comes down to it the drivers are one of the most important people involved in the production of a show.
3. What’s the hardest aspect of your job?
I would say that the hardest aspect of my job is when we have multiple long drives in a row. Fighting fatigue while on the road can be difficult, on long runs there is always a good amount of caffeine involved along with making sure we get the proper amount of rest before the trip. Last summer we averaged over 500 miles a night for the last two and a half or so weeks of Warped Tour, figure eight hours average driving every night with a good 4 or so hours spent at the venue getting things set up and parking and what not.
4. What’s the most time consuming task that you have to do daily? Whether it’s meet & greets, getting the instruments set up, setting up your booth, etc.
The driving is more time consuming than anything with my job on tour. There is a lot of sitting around and waiting as well. On a night with a shorter drive we will arrive hours before and just wait around with nothing to do until it is time to load the gear into the venue. Waiting around can be more tiring than driving in some respects.
5. Can you walk me through your typical day?
I'll just go with a typical day at Warped for me here, other tours can be different. On a typical day of Warped I will wake up in the early evening, depending on the time I will go in and take some pictures of bands performing and grab dinner. Then return to the truck and prepare for my drive. Getting my paperwork in order in case I am to get pulled over checking the tires and the general condition of the truck for any issues. Then once the last band plays and the crowds clear we pull the trucks into the venue and help out a bit with getting everything ready to go to the next town. Then we will make the drive, stopping for fuel and snacks along the way if we have the time. Everything is planned beforehand, sometimes with the longer drives we will make sure to fuel the night before so we don't have to stop unless we have an emergency. Once we get to the gig we pretty much wait around til it is time to set the trucks at load in. During this time I edit my photos from the night before or depending on how much time we have sometimes I will grab a nap. Once we set the trucks for the day and park I will wrap up my editing and go get myself a new wristband for the day so I can take photos. Then I will shoot the first two or three bands performing before heading ff to bed and doing it all over again.
6. Where did you get your training/experience from?
I originally drove freight for a few years. Then one day while at Warped Tour I had the chance to talk to one of the drivers working the tour and I got the information from him for the company that provides trucks for the tour. I got hired on a month or so later and have been working in the entertainment industry ever since.
7. Who else do you think plays an important role when it comes to making a tour/concert work(Assuming that the band has the financial needs to afford multiple techs, basically any employee that’s not too over-the-top ex. multiple security guards, a hype man).
Aside from the actual talent themselves, the tour manager is probably the most important person on the tour. Band members could still tune their own instruments and set up most of the equipment without their techs, not to downplay the importance of their techs. The techs are indispensable when it comes to handling technical problems during a live performance. Most bands have gotten along just fine without them in the past though. When it comes down to it though, if you don't have an important role to play you pretty much don't tour. Nobody has the budget for people they don't NEED on tour. As a band grows those needs grow.
8. Is there anything that fans do that make it harder for you to do your job?
Most of my job is done before and after the fans have left or arrived at a gig. I have been parked in at a shows by people attending gigs I have been working though. We have even had to have vehicles towed in the past. One time at a show in Idaho with Taking Back Sunday the venue had these dollies that would slide under car wheels and allow you to move cars around the parking lot. There were a few parked in front of the loading dock that we had to move, I'm sure those people were really confused when they returned to their vehicles.
9. About how many “hours” do you work per week on your job?
Depends on the week. I have had weeks where we drove a total of a few hundred miles in a week and others where we covered well over 3000 miles. In a typical week we probably end up working around 45-50 hours.
10. How has working in the music industry changed your thoughts about show production and how shows run and work.
It's amazing what can be set up and tore down and how little time it takes. Driving Maroon 5 a couple years back we had twelve trucks or so and it took maybe 3 hours to pack the whole stage setup and load it into the trucks after the show. When we do Warped most (at some dates all) of the stages are their own semi trailers and trucks. They get set up in about an hour every day and tore down in the same time frame. It's truly incredible how much gets done in so little time. From the time I start Warped til the time I am done every year I really spend every moment living and breathing it. In my case I spend WAY too much time throughout the rest of the year thinking about it. It's truly one of the most important things in my life. This summer will be my ten year anniversary of working on the tour. It's a crazy life...
Hey Sedition, my name is Cole Wilquet and I Am a aspiring music photographer. I have a few questions. I'm in the process of buying a Nikon D3200, the camera comes with a bundle. A 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 and 55-200mm f/4-56 lenses. I've heard these are really bad and will effect my pictures (just what I've heard) and was told to buy a nikon 35mm f/1.8 lens. What are your thoughts on that? And I want to go on tour with a band. How do I achieve that? Do you get paid? And im looking for a mentor to help with future questions, do you know anyone (or your self) who would be interested in helping a new photographer out?
Hi Cole! Thanks for writing. Picking your first camera is hard. I went with Canon as I personally like the Canon menu system better than the Nikon menu system. For a starter camera the d3200 is a great choice. (Well, pretty much any modern dslr is a great choice these days...) There is nothing wrong with the lenses themselves in that bundle, the problem comes when you try to shoot in low light with them. The aperture just does not open up enough to let in the light you need in a concert situation. That's not to say that those lens are unusable. This shot of Jefferey from Capture The Crown was taken at f5 1/640th of a second at iso 3200 with a similar canon lens to the 55-200 you listed above. https://flic.kr/p/qSp6jV You will want a "faster" lens than those though. The 35mm 1.8 would be a great choice to start out with. (Faster means a wider aperture which means a lower number which means it lets more light in to the camera's sensor...)
As far as going on tour with a band goes, there are hundreds of other photographers that want the same thing and it's a hard thing to achieve. If it's something you really want to do though your best bet is to learn a different skill that is more useful to a touring band and to do photography on the side. I've never had a band hire me on as a tour photographer (I have had some offers to drive for bands though I have had to turn them down due to other prior commitments with my current driving job.) Sure lots of people may love my work but it's hard for a band to justify the added expense. Especially when like I said, THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF OTHER PHOTOGRAPHERS THAT WANT TO TOUR AS WELL. Build relationships learn useful skills and one day you should be able to achieve touring though. All it really takes is hard work and perseverance it could be years but if you really want it you can make it happen.
I'm an aspiring photographer and saw your post on Instagram about question for your blog and would love to ask you 'how did you get started in photography especially music/concert photography?'
Hi Magda! Thanks for writing. I have been touring with music tours for years. I've always been into art and photography was one of many artforms that interested me. I bought a film SLR years and years ago when I was on an early Fallout Boy tour and had a lot of fun with it. Unfortunately that camera got stolen and it was YEARS before I finally invested in a new camera. I finally bought a Canon T1I 5 or 6 years later right before I went out on Warped Tour and started taking some photos again. I took a few photos here and there for the next year or two. Finally in the summer of 2012 I started getting more serious about photography. I tasked myself with taking one good photo a day over the course of Warped. I succeeded though I don't really like those photos anymore. (except this one. I love this one. Taking Back Sunday is performing, this is at the 2012 Warped Tour in Pomona CA. I have no idea if the photo is going to show though, I'm new to this.) After that summer I went back to school for graphic design. I did one semester at that time and then went back on the road during the coming winter. I did a lot of work with models until the 2013 Warped Tour came around. Then in my free time at work I took a bunch of photos. Eventually people started catching on and my instagram started getting a lot of followers! It was overwhelming. (still is) That's the short version of how I fell into music photography. It's not a job for me yet but if I'm lucky maybe one day!
Hi I'm @this_war_is_yours on Instagram,
I really love your photography (one of my favourite photographers by far) :o
I was just wondering how you got into music photography? Whether you took any courses or had to start in photographing other things before working up to music? I'm definitely considering music photography as a possible career and I honestly have no idea where to start
Hi! Thanks for writing. I have actually been working in the music/entertainment industry for over ten years now. Back in 2004 I was working as a freight driver for a company called US Xpress, on one of my off days I was at Warped Tour and ran into a guy that was driving for it and talked to him about the job, got the info for the company called them up and have been driving entertainment ever since. The photography came later. I've always been creative though. I went to the Art institute of Pittsburgh back in 1999 for graphic design and have done two semesters of it at other schools since. As far as photography goes I have no formal training though my history in art/graphic design has definitely been very helpful with my photography. Thanks for writing I look forward to hearing from more of you and doing more of these in the future!